tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post278342880114069114..comments2007-06-05T17:14:45.559-05:00Comments on Mormon Coffee: Really -- What is Mormonism? Most Evangelicals Wou...Sharonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09882041754082068398noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-67574084483370548112007-06-05T17:12:00.000-05:002007-06-05T17:12:00.000-05:00Hello Tanner, I asked Sharon about your reply, she...Hello Tanner, I asked Sharon about your reply, she felt it was as you said, Sorry about me misunderstanding, I thought it was to or about me, simply because my reply was the second one and what you said seemed to almost apply to me saying I would vote for a mormon.<BR/><BR/>Sharon posted a while back about a mormon running for presidet, I said in that topic, one good thing about it is, it will open peoples eyes to what they really believe by at least giving Mormonism some serious exposer, then we will have more chances to get the truth out. take care, Rick Brick bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11950869644074076301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-57571454522190327652007-06-05T14:38:00.000-05:002007-06-05T14:38:00.000-05:00To: Rick BSorry my comments were not directed at y...To: Rick B<BR/><BR/>Sorry my comments were not directed at you or your comments but towards the post in Christianity Today. Sorry I did not intend to post a reply to your comments. Maybe to clarify that I don't care who anyone votes for. I just don't want someone to sacrifice 'Truth' for a political agenda, which to me seems like what the authors of the article are doing. So my apologies. <BR/><BR/>God BlessTanner &amp; Emilyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15828940471124349333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-45222722365319495542007-06-05T10:29:00.000-05:002007-06-05T10:29:00.000-05:00I received a response from one of the editors at C...I received a response from one of the editors at Christianity Today regarding my e-mail to them. I have posted it and my reply to our blog.Keith Walkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09120501241965069406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-52307481289128393312007-06-04T16:38:00.000-05:002007-06-04T16:38:00.000-05:00I'm pretty sure Hillary Clinton is a Methodist, an...I'm pretty sure Hillary Clinton is a Methodist, and Barack Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ.<BR/><BR/>Probably they're both far too theologically liberal to be categorized as "Born Again" Christians, but calling them an atheist and a Muslim is just fearmongering in my opinion.<BR/><BR/>Also, "holding some Muslim views" could mean "believing in only one God," which describes most Christians, no? AFAIK, that's the most important "Muslim view."Random Goblinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06074460048785852998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-30111086132577656842007-06-04T02:36:00.000-05:002007-06-04T02:36:00.000-05:00Quoting the Book of Mormon to alleviate a Christia...Quoting the Book of Mormon to alleviate a Christian's concerns about the un-Christian nature of Mormonism can ironically be somewhat of a red herring. The Book of Mormon teaches modalism and a more traditional view of heaven and hell. But does that reflect modern Mormonism? Absolutely <I>not</I>. Mormonism "moved on" from the Book of Mormon long ago, only to return to it by retrofitting post-Nauvoo theology. They couldn't do that with the Lectures on Faith, and that's why they had to be decanonized. Quoting the Book of Mormon to portray Mormonism can be like quoting the Canons of the Council of Orange to portray Roman Catholics or quoting the Torah to portray Kabbalists.<BR/><BR/>As much as some would like to pretend Mormonism believes in <EM><A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prima_scriptura" REL="nofollow">prima scriptura</A></EM>, it is a religion of "continuing revelation" centered around the current priesthood authority leadership, something deemed far more important than what Brigham Young called a "dead" book. Gerald McDermott has been suckered into Millet's smooth tongue, and ought to sober up and stop viewing Mormonism through the rosy lens of BYU neo-orthodoxy. He and Robert Millet ought to be quoting currently used church publications like <I>Gospel Principles</I>, <I>True to the Faith</I>, and various CES manuals. While so many are drunk off the flattery from inter-faith love-fests traditional Mormonism carries on at the lay level.Aaron Shafovaloffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03385127979306952044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-21537962374345337852007-06-04T02:10:00.000-05:002007-06-04T02:10:00.000-05:00I sent this quote to Robert Millet on March 10:"[E...I sent this quote to Robert Millet on March 10:<BR/><BR/>"[E]very man and woman will receive all that they are worthy of, and something thrown in perhaps on the score of the boundless charity of God. But who can justly expect to obtain more than they merit?" - Joseph F. Smith, <I>Journal of Discourses</I>, 26 vols., v. 20, p. 30.<BR/><BR/>On March 12 he responded with:<BR/><BR/><I>Great quote! Thanks for sending it.<BR/><BR/>RLM</I><BR/><BR/>---<BR/><BR/>No commentary required...Aaron Shafovaloffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03385127979306952044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-30406674653016124622007-06-03T20:23:00.000-05:002007-06-03T20:23:00.000-05:00James White has a couple of great posts on this is...James White has a couple of great posts on this issue as well at www.aomin.org<BR/><BR/>The problem is two-fold. First, most evangelicals don't know what mormonism has traditionally taught and second they don't what THEY believe because they never hear doctrine from the pulpit. It is hard to recognize a counterfeit if you are unfamiliar with what the real thing looks like.Arthur Sidohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03848508095612688493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-39940826028360004492007-06-03T17:40:00.000-05:002007-06-03T17:40:00.000-05:00I have written a response to this article on my bl...I have written a response to this article on my blog. It is too long to post here.<BR/><BR/>http://evidenceministries.blogspot.com/Keith Walkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09120501241965069406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-49991413420661999122007-06-02T14:40:00.000-05:002007-06-02T14:40:00.000-05:00No one has really said why voting for a mormon may...No one has really said why voting for a mormon may not be a good move. From what I've heard, Mitt Romney is a card carrying temple mormon. That means that he is one of the few LDS people who are allowed into the temple to do temple work. A mormon of this standing is expected to blindly follow the current prophet and do whatever he's told to do. I don't want a president who is not his own man. I want someone in that office that will go with his heart and put the welfare of the American people first.Renee Mhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09482089054017026141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-6337191262388365932007-06-02T08:28:00.000-05:002007-06-02T08:28:00.000-05:00Tanner said But leading people astray for politica...Tanner said <B>But leading people astray for political reason...AH...now there is something that will have eternal consequences.</B><BR/><BR/>What exactly do you think I said? Or are you reading to much into what I said. Your correct that God will put someone into power. But as near as I can tell, Hilary is an athiest and a liar, Obama, I understand is either muslim or holds some of their views.<BR/><BR/>Mitt is a Mormon, Name anyone that is running who is an on fire Born again Christian. If you can name one and they are picked for the run to be president I will vote for them.<BR/><BR/>Sadly it will only come down to two people, and I really believe neither will be true Christians. So if neither is a Christian, do we simply not vote, or do we vote for a pagan or cult member, either choice, vote or not, one of them will end up in office. Rick brick bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11950869644074076301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-44585740928193837442007-06-02T03:47:00.000-05:002007-06-02T03:47:00.000-05:00I am saddened to learn of this deception. I pray f...I am saddened to learn of this deception. I pray for a follow up article to appear in Christianity Today that will make the truth known.Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05918293636962470982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-89140444969826286202007-06-01T17:22:00.000-05:002007-06-01T17:22:00.000-05:00I personally am overly disgusted by politics. And,...I personally am overly disgusted by politics. And, I am hurt that a "Christian" would de-magnify a Very deep difference strictly for political purposes. I mean I might care if a Mormon is president, but I would care if a Scientologist was president too. God will put whom he chooses in power. Whether or not you would vote for this person or that has no eternal significance. But leading people astray for political reason...AH...now there is something that will have eternal consequences. Unity is important, but not at the cost of truth. Jesus is the Way the truth and the life. I choose truth in Love over unity in Hell.Tanner &amp; Emilyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15828940471124349333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-4852496728131475352007-06-01T12:25:00.000-05:002007-06-01T12:25:00.000-05:00I personnaly have no problems voting for a mormon....I personnaly have no problems voting for a mormon.<BR/><BR/>How many currant people running for president in 08 claim to be a Born again Christian? None that I know of, and how many past Presidents in the last 50 years were on fire born again Christians who made it know flat out where they stand with Christ.<BR/><BR/>As sad as it is, I do not see a true Born again Christian getting into office. I know Bush claims to be one, but he does some things that at times makes me wonder, he also appers to avoid being bold and blunt in his postion as to where he stands with Christ. Rick brick bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11950869644074076301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20545487.post-77238984806573469432007-06-01T07:03:00.000-05:002007-06-01T07:03:00.000-05:00I am indeed saddened to see the magazine that bear...I am indeed saddened to see the magazine that bears the name of our Saviour pandering to the very ravenous wolves that He warned us about (Matt 7:15). "Christianity Today" should be concerned with contending for the faith, not so much about placating psuedo-Christian religious entities. Millet is brilliant, and as a strategist he is striking in the soft spots of the Body's armor -- a "web only" section of the magazine, and slipping the message of Joseph Smith under the doors of the sleeping editors.Brianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09331656773177360643noreply@blogger.com